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Far Cough
1:16 Fri Jan 4
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Franny Lee was a cunt
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eusebiovic
1:15 Fri Jan 4
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Billy Whitehurst who played for quite a few teams in the 80's/90's was a psychopath.
Apparently he was at Sheffield United when Vinny Jones was there and he beat seven shades of shit out of him for taking the piss out of him during training. Absolutely destroyed him by all accounts.
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J.Riddle
1:12 Fri Jan 4
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Thanks Mike, yes the memory is vague, few years ago now :-) I think it was the Todd one, Beattie was a tough one, but your right it was George Burley, I am sure he sustained a bad facial injury fractured nose or jaw? Maybe another incident?
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Gloucester Iron
1:08 Fri Jan 4
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Reply Northern Sold 11:48 Fri Jan 4
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Not thinking of the legendary Hunter v Franny Lee punch up.... when Lee's windmills got Hunter reversing quicker than a Italian tank... old skool footy
Fucking hell, Sold, I was only talking to my lad about this at the weekend and showed him the clip on YouTube - proper!!
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southbankbornnbred
1:06 Fri Jan 4
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The thing is, I don't remember them being particularly tough on the pitch. Dennis was a thug, yes.
But, on the pitch, Harford was no more physical than half of the centre forwards you saw in England during that period. I guess that because he lacked skill, his physicality was all you saw. Whereas the likes of big Cyrille and Hateley etc had some technique which drew your eye away from just being a lump.
Harford always struck me as somebody who thought he was a legend in his own underpants. I can't say I ever thought he was particularly difficult to play against. Not a patch on David Cross, physically or football-wise.
The Leeds side of the seventies would have wiped the floor with these amateurs - physically and technically. That side was as tough as hell - on the pitch and off it -but boy could they play when they wanted to.
So, no, not the toughest or hardest football team in history - not in a million years. Maybe just a bunch of nightclub and pub thugs who liked a drink. Wow. Join the rest of the UK!
Rubbish journalism.
Btw, if the term 'crazy gang' was "conceived" in south-west London, then that means it was created there.
Which is nonsense, as the piece already infers, because the Brum side was already known as that.
Throw this cheap shit hackism back in the face of the idiot who wrote it.
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Takashi Miike
12:43 Fri Jan 4
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Riddle, Robson retaliated against George Burley fouling him. the Bonds one with Todd was not long before the Cup Final and luckily the FA weren't over the top with the punishment. now he'd probably be on a six month ban
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Northern Sold
12:38 Fri Jan 4
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WITHE
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Northern Sold
12:37 Fri Jan 4
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I remember Bonzo and With getting in a scrap of sorts then then they hugged, laughed and done a bit of ball room dancing....
Went to a Hammers Heroes evening at the Cliffs a few years back... Bonzo was there... Tony gale doing his great compere role... asked Bonzo about the modern day players warm up techniques....
Bonzo: "Not for me... "
Galey "Would you like to tell the audience what your warm up routine before the game was Bill "
Bonzo "No..."
Galey "Well let me tell them... Bill's warm up routine would be hammering a ball against a brick wall for a minute and then just before going out to the tunnel he would head butt the door twice and shout `COME ON...'... true Bill??"
Bonzo... "Yup..."
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J.Riddle
12:32 Fri Jan 4
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Takashi Miike 2:44 Fri Jan 4
Probably getting mixed up with someone else, Bonds had a few over the years Peter Withe of Villa maybe. Sure there was a big scrap v Ipswich Kevin Beattie and Keith Robson?
Tommy Smith was a hard case.
Northern Sold 11:48 Fri Jan 4
That was quality.
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Northern Sold
12:09 Fri Jan 4
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Cough... and Charlton.... and Clarke.... and Lorimer.... etc etc
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cholo
12:03 Fri Jan 4
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Haz
Fairly certain mad dog only got a yellow (although deserved a straight red)?
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Far Cough
11:51 Fri Jan 4
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Norman Hunter wasn't that bad, he was hard, yes, it was Bremner and Giles that were the dirty cunts
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Northern Sold
11:48 Fri Jan 4
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J.Riddle 2:32 Fri Jan 4
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Didn't Norman bites yer legs Hunter have a fist fight with Bonds at the Boleyn where Hunter or both got sent off?
Not thinking of the legendary Hunter v Franny Lee punch up.... when Lee's windmills got Hunter reversing quicker than a Italian tank... old skool footy
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Haz
10:18 Fri Jan 4
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Anyone got a link to that Martin Allen tackle on Carlton Palmer, when he got sent off after about 30 seconds of coming on?!
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Lato
9:24 Fri Jan 4
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cholo 8:23 Thu Jan 3
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cholo I stand corrected. My excuse is I was seated in the West Side lower down the South Bank end and had several beers pre match.
Cant believe that was nearly 30 years ago......happy days!
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Takashi Miike
2:44 Fri Jan 4
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riddle, he had a fight with colin todd in 1980
this is a good article and covers all our red cards since 1951, giving a brief write up on why each sending off occured
http://theyflysohigh.co.uk/red-card/4572992056
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J.Riddle
2:32 Fri Jan 4
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Didn't Norman bites yer legs Hunter have a fist fight with Bonds at the Boleyn where Hunter or both got sent off? Bremner was a nasty little wind up c**t!
Terry Cooper was the finest left back I have EVER seen.
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SDKFZ 222
2:15 Fri Jan 4
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Was Revie in charge when we were just one of 4 teams to beat Leeds during their championship winning season in 1974?
I remember us beating them 3-1 at home on a sunny Spring afternoon and we totally mullered them. This was at a time when they were arrogant and believed themselves to be totally unbeatable. They even wore those numbered tassles on their socks and used to do that line up on the halfway line before matches and do that pirouette and little wave, which attracted derision from every part of the ground.
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gph
1:29 Fri Jan 4
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Didn't Revie swear he'd never be beaten by a Greenwood team again after that night?
And didn't he almost achieve that, losing once, by the substantially less impressive score of 1-0?
I think I looked this up once, but my memory's shit, and I'm too knackered right now to do it again.
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only1billybonds
1:24 Fri Jan 4
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Leeds were reasonably civilised up til the night ee best them 7-0 in the league cup in 1967. This infuriated their manager so much that he decided 'no one will ever do that to a team of mine again' and they became far more cynical as a result.
I wont bore anyone with the Roberts/Bonds story ad its been done many times on here.
Any Spanish/Italian/South American side pre mid 80's were fucking hooligans on the pitch.
Ann the great Liverpool sides if the 70s and 80's could certainly look after themselves.
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Takashi Miike
12:24 Fri Jan 4
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for his size, Wardy could also handle himself. I loved the but of edge he had to his game. Martin Allen was a bit more ruthless and made probably the dirtiest tackle I've seen at upton park on Carlton Palmer :.)
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